The Orange-Juice-is-Bad-as-Coke Debate Rages On

A couple of weeks ago we wrote about the sacred cow of OJ nutrition being mercilessly slayed over at the Los Angeles Times. To quickly remind you – the theme is that Orange Juice is high in sugar, low in fiber, and contains vitamins and minerals that are abundant in a normal diet – overall it does more bad than good for most people.

The Florida Department of Citrus was obviously not happy with all this OJ negativity. They sent a letter to LA Times reporter, Karen Kaplan, respectfully disagreeing with the articles content. They also sent copies to blogs such as Fooducate. (download WORD doc here).

As an additional measure, the Citrus folks enlisted a dietitian, Gail Rampersaud, to write letters to all the skeptics, extolling the virtues of the Juice. An LA Times Article from Wednesday brings the dietitian’s letter, and a response from one of the skeptics, Dr. Robert Lustig, a pediatric endocrinologist at UC San Francisco. It’s pretty much a re-run of previous arguments, with a few additional twists.

Pro-OJ:

  • One glass counts as a fruit serving.
  • Good source of vitamin C, which many people don’t get enough of.
  • Citrus juices are more nutrient dense than apple or pineapple juices.
  • 100% OJ is free of added sugar.
  • The majority of  kids are not getting enough fruit in their diet. A study showed that kids 2-11 who drank OJ were likely to be consuming more fruit as well.
  • The 2005 Dietary Guidelines for Americans recognized the nutritional importance of including 100% orange juice in the diet.

Against-OJ:

  • The problem is not with fruit, it’s with juice.
  • Juice has no fiber.
  • Half the calories are from fructose (a sugar). Fructose in high quantities is a burden on the human metabolism.

And you just have to love Dr. Lustig’s eloquence:

The upside of juice consumption is so infinitesimal compared to the downside that we shouldn’t even be having this discussion.

In his response letter he further writes:

I am not against fruit. As far as I am concerned, the most important nutrient contained in fruit (not just citrus, but any fruit) is fiber. “The juice is Nature’s way of getting you to eat your fiber.” Thus, I am not against fruit; indeed I am for it. So the Florida Department of Citrus can rest easy in terms of the citrus crop.

The problem with Florida’s department of citrus is that there’s way too many oranges produced. Too much for people to consume as fruit. So we got juice.

Can anyone else think of a surplus crop whose processing has turned into a profitable business with an unhealthy downside?

If you answered corn and high fructose corn syrup – give yourself a pat on the back.

What to do at the supermarket:

I am still torn by the saddening news that orange juice is not that healthy after all. Decades of programing my brain that this is healthy cannot be erased overnight. That said, in our family the issue is not so critical because we drink tap water 99% of the time. My kids can have whatever they want the rest of the time.

If you are debating between soda pop and orange juice – go for the juice.

If you’re debating between orange juice and water – go for water. And if that’s too hard, you can always water down a glass of OJ and halve the sugar content in an instant.

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  • http://www.weightymatters.ca Yoni Freedhoff

    You know I love you guys.

    That said, part of what fuels the “debate” is that evidence based nutrition resources like yourselves will often call it a “debate” and consequently give credence to the notion that the pro-OJ side has any case at all. I think evidence based nutrition thinkers and resources should keep that in mind when discussing juice. Suggesting there’s a debate also suggests that there’s merit to the pro side when of course there’s quite literally just a smattering of sugar-coated vitamins covering what initially started out as great belief based intentions and now is simply a great sugared water industry.

    • Christina Berg

      Agree that the idea that juice is unhealthy is a foreign concept to most folks, soda is evil, but juice? It’s a debate that many folks have and editors healthy v. unhealthy, if you read men’s health you will find that many unhealthy foods are not thought of, however these debates are not usually brought up first notice politically, for instance when taxing and banning items with food stamps

  • http://www.fooducate.com/blog Editorial Staff

    @Yoni

    The love is mutual :-)

    When two sides argue over a point, there’s a debate. Perhaps in the case of OJ, there should not be any argument; but fact is people are arguing.

    This post wanted to capture the argument for people to read and reach the right conclusion – which is the science based one. Perhaps I didn’t do a good enough job of that. And perhaps the wording of this post’s title could have been chosen better.

    But even when there is no merit to the pro-OJ camp, their arguments should be presented for people to read and consider.

    Not trying to debate about the debate or non-debate here, just hoping to help people make better, informed choices…

  • http://www.littlestomaks.com TwinToddlersDad

    I don’t see anything wrong in drinking OJ if you are also able to eat fruits. I fully concur with your advice in the “What to do at the Supermarket” section. Sometimes it is also a matter of convenience and availability. Choose OJ with no added sugar and fortified with vitamin D.

  • http://HeartRD.com Stasha Kucel MS, RD/LD

    Just stick to 4 ounces of juice and we will all be okay. Some people love OJ and its a great source of Vit C. Plus, the Minute Maid Heartwise has plant sterols. Love that!

    • Christina Berg

      Really, most folks don’t need extra vitamin C , although being water soluble passes it through the body, depending on the juice it can worse than a half-glass of soda.

  • Ashley Zerbes

    I had never heard about OJ being bad for you before this article. My boyfriend swears by a glass of OJ each day helps keep him healthy. It makes sense with high sugar content that it is not the best option. I think having a glass of OJ isn’t bad itself, but if you drink juice instead of consuming fruit then there is a problem. I was always told not to waste calorie intake on liquids. My issue with OJ is most people I know consider a subsitute such as Sunny D OJ and aren’t drinking 100% juice.

  • youssef

    Natural Orange juice home made is 100% healthy !
    One orange contains about 9 grams of sugar so two orange contains 18 grams
    Squeeze those two orange and you will get one cup of fresh orange juice!
    In other hands, coke contains 39 grams!!!! 41 of Pepsi
    Coke contains no vitamins!! Non fiber
    Coke contains phosphoric acid, harmful to you teeth you have to use a straw to protect them. Phosphoric acid is also harmful to your digestive tract.
    Coke contains CO2 a toxic gas for our health.
    Coke contains non natural flavor and color.
    Coke contains caffeine! No good for sleeping and stomach.

    Commercial orange juice is a bad a soda drink because of its sugar and chemical content